tavis: what do you make of that pendulum swing? >> i think it was copenhagen. my character ends up getting invited to copenhagen. that was a great shame. there were the emails. probably a little more made of that. i think people think that scientists are like high priests. science is a messy business. science labs are full of competition and bristing egos just like any human institution. part of the fact that we have almost too much faith in scientists and then there was a moment in the i.p.c. report, the climate change body that reports every few years that exaggerated by a factor of 10 ice melt up in the high tibetan plateau. that at least was pointed out by a climate scientist so in the sciences having to deal with itself really, having to be rigorous with itself. tavis: i want to come back to -- first thing is how do you decide to take a very serious issue, an issue to your point is being debated now like climate change and fictionalize it. >> it is really difficult. i would like to write a novel around this subject but you know, it is full of morals, ethic